Correction i said " it less likely we are up against ace high since one being on the flop makes it less likely an ace is in our opponents hand"

the ace was on the turn not the flop apologies for any confusion

Great post dude. Helpful to have poker think shared like this

Looking forward to the next

Good post for strategy!!

His is mistake was the check on turn, in this situation where youre chasing with Q10 he should reraise your flop bet 2-3x, and setup his big river bet with a similar bet on turn, say. 12.50c and push river.

In your position, id rather have pushed all in to his raise rather than calling with K high, because if he had a low pair and trying to steal the pot, after seeing your initial raise and a check on turn, he would have folded the low pair thinking its a trap. Better to risk a few more bucks than call with K high, as 18 into a 50/1$ game is already 18x blind, why not add a few more bucks to rule out the hand that beats you, being obvious its weak here due ti low aggression and a random river overbet. How weak you cannot tell, that is why I personally would reraise him all in so he never sees my K high

Excuse the spelling mistakes, I dont use auto correct on iphone cuz I type fast and use words like cuzzzzz, DERP

- in position player has a monopoly on hands like aces, ace queen ace king, ace jack

-The turn ace is a blank

I don't get it. What hand did you have the in-position to have? You mentioned you had him on AK, Q or J. But when an A comes on the turn you assume it's a brick???

Explain more what changed your mind on what he had on the turn and then why you called 150% the pot when an A beats you.

I may just be having trouble understanding your post:
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"big blind and small blind are going to smash. why?

because the in position player has a monopoly on hands like aces, ace queen ace king, ace jack, all these hands are already uncomfortable on a flop like this. what does this mean for us?"
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you explained why the big blind smashes the flop, but not the small blind. What did you expect the small blind to have on this flop?

Also, I think if you have an aggressive betting style then it's not too uncommon for the sb to check the flop trying to trap you.

the small blind can have a huge range and could have easily connected with this flop (my understanding) or even have any pocket pairs. To me it seems like you made an assumption or a good read that he was on a draw and it paid off. But I would still like to know how you came to that conclusion on how you took him off so many other hands that could have had you beat.

HI GURGI! :) sorry this was my first post and was a bit of a spew with not the best organization. also sorry it took so long to reply. I will try to improve my response time in order to get this whole discussion thing going.

"why do the big blind and small blind smash a flop of 6 8 9?"

this is because when we are in the small blind and big blind, we are already somewhat invested compared to the rest of the table.
How does this affect our play?(what does this mean?)
this means we are more incentivized or allowed to play more speculative looking hands. Hands Like: 6 8 offsuit, 7 8 offsuit, 5 7, 5 8, etc I could go on and on.

So When a flop of 6 8 9 comes down, even most of the air in small blind and big blind range is a straight draw at the very least. Hands like queen 10, jack 10, etc. air but still both very strong draws. So when it is VERY HARD for the small blind and big blind to have hopeless air, hard to have no draw, they are smashing this flop. I hope I did ok in trying to explain that part of your excellent questions.

Why does this smash both players? the small blind AND the Big blind?

The small blind is just a mini version of the big blind and is already somewhat invested in the hand. so the same rules about being to play somewhat speculative hands applies to the small blind. allowing the small blind player to smash the flop of 689 as well. the exception to the rule for the SB is written below...

*THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO THE SMALL BLIND IF THE BIG BLIND PLAYER IS A MANIAC AND CONSTANTLY RAISING PRE FLOP TO BIG SIZES, THE SB SHOULD CUT SPECULATIVE HANDS OUT THAT ARE NOT SUITED/ CONNECTED*

"It is not uncommon for the sb to check the flop looking to trap you"
This is an excellent point Gurgi

it took me a while to think about it but then I remembered, we bet 1/3 pot on the flop very small

lets put ourselves in the trapping opponent (SB) shoes.
lets say sb trapping value on a flop of 689 is: 89(16 combos), 68( 16 combos), pocket 6s (3 combos), pocket 8s (3 combos) pocket 9s (3 combos) 57(16 combos)

They have checked the flop and trapped us and we have bet tiny 1/3 pot on a flop of 689 and they have all of the above hands. would these hands REALLY allow me to see a turn that could demote the strength of ALL of these hands? lets look at what happens if a 7 hits the turn.

Every single above hand is demoted to nothing close to a nutted hand anymore and even 10 7 (the flopped nut straight) is unhappy because there is now an obvious one liner to a straight. so what does this mean?

This is a rare situation in poker we it is likely mandatory that the SB RAISES our 1/3 pot bet with ALL of their value before a disaster card comes and ruins everything.

so when they just call? The opponent has defined his range. they are left drowning in hands that would not raise. hands like the drawing hands mentioned above queen 10 jack ten. This is where the read comes in. All those trapping value hands would raise my very small flop bet at least most of the time( I know you are different gurgi :) )

Now why are we sooooooo confident in king high?
I mean we lose to ace high right? well when an ace hits the turn there is now only 3 possible aces in the deck making it less likely one was in our opponents hands. so yes on the turn the opponent will SOMETIMES HAVE THE RARE TURNED ACE 9 TWO PAIR
but this does not outweigh the fact that they also arrive to the turn after not raising the flop with jack 7 suited (3 combos, open ender that just calls 1/3 pot on flop),

Jack 10 suited and offsuit (16 combos, open ended that just calls 1/3 pot on flop),

queen 10 offsuit and suited (16 combos, double gutter straight draw that just calls 1/3 pot on flop)

queen jack suited and offsuit (gutter to the super nuts, that just calls 1/3 pot on the flop)

the ace turn helps none of these hands at all this paired with the fact that when the ace turn comes it is even less likely an ace is in our opponents hand this Greatly improves the showdown value of KING HIGH.

when the 8 river comes

we talked about the trapping hands hands like 88, 89, ace 8, when the 8 river comes and our opponent overbets he is saying

"hey that super small bet you made on the flop? i slow played because im a patient player and only called it and risked ruining winning the pot when many disaster turn cards couldve ruined my hand."

Just like with the ace

when an 8 comes on the river it is less likey that a flopped two pair 89 or pocket 8s or 6 8 is in our opponents hand because how can this 8 be in our opponents hand if it is on the board?

so we are not clairvoyant in poker we are simply making a decision based on how our opponent has played the hand and skewed his range. will we call and lose sometimes? YES but its not about winning every pot its about taking high probability spots over and over and over and being confident in the analysis

In the end I like zoids play of raising the river bet

I had some instances where i called with king high and lost to a better king high because the opponent did not know that they did not need to bluff with king high.
even with those silly loses this still a couple months later is one of my most profitable spots.