Rob, I appreciate the reply, thanks. Ryan has recently expressly permitted the transfer of funds from one account to another. He did this after permission had been sought and the transfer was then conducted by a moderator.

The fact that gpokr doesn't not have a feature that facilitates easy chip transfer does not imply that the practice is either unethical or against any ruling. Gpokr is still under development and still has many imperfections that need to be ironed out. The posting of blinds being one of those. It is reasonable to expect that a 'chip tranfer' tool will never be available but nothing can be implied by it's absence.

A few players have mentioned that they don't like players to transfer chips but I fail to understand why they should be so vehemently against it. You can only play one account at a time no matter what.

I guess Ryan needs to write it into the rules for all of you that can't understand that it is improper. As to your comment about one wallet to the other. Two different identites on the site are not the same as one carrying two wallets. One more thought: If Ryan intended for you to transfer from one account to the other he certainly could have made it possible without the help of a friend. To do that all he would have to do is create a bank for gpokr players to deposit and draw from. You can then play merrily all day long and comingle as much as you like. The spirit of a tournament is one player against the other head to head without advantage. When you allow transferring you also open the door to loans, gifts, and other forms of behavior that isn't directly written into the rules. I am not chastidsing you Impatient just patiently trying to get you to understand my position on this issue.

Rob, given your strong ethics, I have to ask why would you feel it necessary to maintain two identities on one site and how does this stand on what you feel is ethical and unethical?

Jules, in answer to your question about my two identites on the site, that was done in December when I got tired of being knocked out and having to wait for what seemed an eternity to play again. I created and then paid membership on the second account for that reason only. I still maintain both accounts as completely separate identities and compete as if I were two different people. I don't feel that having multiple accounts is improper under the circumstances I just outlined, but perhaps that privledge should be limited to people willing to pay for membership on the site. Your thoughts?

Rob, opinion on transfers are just that, opinion. Maintaining a hard line concerning fund transfer whilst running more than one account makes it difficult to hold a rigid stance on ethics. You mention that the second account was created to reduce waiting time after busting. Did you ask yourself about the ethical implications of that? Surely that practice has ethical implications all of it's own. On that principle a player could have 20 accounts and all in every hand and simply reload and do it again and again. Not good really.

But let's look at player X.
X has two accounts ABC and 123.
He plays both (although not at the same time)
On ABC he accumulates $500K in chips due to his skill/luck
On 123 he accumulates $500K again due to skill/luck.
Player X has won $1Mill in chips all by himself and on his own merit. At the end of the competition it would be fair for him to represent his playing skills and good fortune by combining the accounts. This would give an accurate representation of how many chips that player could accumulate during the month of play.

I am not really for or against the practice, but I don't have a problem with it and would not consider it to be cheating.

rob s. i agree with you 100% i feel that you should only play one actt:and to transfer i dont like i think its unfair.i see no real need to play more than one actt:it would nice to see every play only one actt:that would be fair and square.there is no need for transfer
loans AND GIVING CHIPS AWAY FOR FREE AND ALL
THESE MORE THAN ONE ACTT:I PLAY WITH ONLY ONE ACTT:AND ITS NO PROBLEM.

Jack, I welcome your opinion on this.

What we need is active debate on this issue. If the playing community comes out strongly against the practice of account transfers then efforts should be made to eliminate it. On the other hand if people are ambivalent to it or come out in favour of fund transfer then no change is necessary.

The site 'belongs' to those that play here, so if you have a point of view on this then post it.

i am against fund transfer!!!

I feel that the site should sort out the cheaters and loaners..before we worry about this Item

Jules, you seem to be stuck on the topic of my two accounts. I already stated that I pay for membership on both accounts, I play them as completely separate entities. I don't comingle funds, don't loan, and play fairly at all times. There is no ethical dilema because I am not playing both as one,and I don't expect too many people want to pay for multiple memberships like I did. I paid for membership on both accounts to be honest and to support the site, capish? The question I have been asking is whether it is ethical or not to comingle accounts. My opinion is that although not nearly as bad as loaning, it still violates the spirit and intentions of the site. I am not condemning anyone just uttering my own opinion on the improper or unethical nature of the practice. As you stated this our site and it will only get better if we have discussions of this type. You seem to be reasonably logical, how is my argument flawed? Last thought, I would be more than willing to delete one account if Ryan decided to make that a requirement for the gpokr site, no questions asked.